This is our first official episode, and it’s another fresh rabbit-hole.  Our guest is Juris Co-Founder and CTO Konstantin. Later we’ll do an episode about the fifteen years we’ve been working together, but for this one we’re jumping right into the good stuff with a chat about code as law, and how everything is a computer.

This week we’re talking to T. Brian Jones. He’s CTO of adtech startup Netwise Data, and advisor to the Juris project. He’s also the cohost of my other podcast, Zengineering.